Well posted this thread from the shout box -:
[02/06/13 20:55:42] RAZER: read the mohaac stuff, looks similar to warfighter setup, but how can you fight this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rugta7OoEUk
[02/06/13 20:58:57] RAZER: i reckon this is what you call....using you equipment to its potential, as its controlled thru mouse and keyboard, BUT, is it cheating..........mmmmm
[02/06/13 22:16:38] Shadow: NoRecoil will be caught by MOHAAC np, in Warfighter it seems easier to do though.. just with a script.. but even scripts would be flagged by MOHAAC.
[02/06/13 22:37:57] RAZER: nothing to do with warfighter...its all to do with BIND keys, and mouse and keyboard MACROS, even mohaac cant detect it...I PROVED IT and showed it working to my clan.
[02/06/13 22:42:09] RAZER: nothing to do with scripts either or mohaa, I have the technology and so do you........I will be sending my findings to steve dellux.
[02/06/13 23:16:22] Shadow: I read a bit about it on that link and on some sites.. it seems everyone is either using some sort of macro software or script, which should be detectable? I don't see how recoil can be perfectly controlled without any of that.. though I am curious now.
[02/06/13 22:46:30] RAZER: was ready and still am to call it a day after finding this crap out, can nobody just play a pc game anymore without taking the p*ss
[02/06/13 22:48:16] RAZER: and then WE get called cheats because we allow some mods on OUR OWN servers.......mmmmm tasty isnt it.....rant over!!
[02/07/13 16:04:46] RAZER: yes shadow the macros are real and work...but as they are desktop programs i dont see how mohaac will detect them...the mouse macro lets you fire stop fire stop fire stop and you dont need to let go of your mouse button.
[02/07/13 16:08:07] RAZER: I dont know how the aimbot macro works yet....only way is to download one and take it apart but the forums all boast that they work.l
[02/07/13 16:11:15] RAZER: I use logitech 500 gaming mouse and razer lycosa gaming keyboard which both allow macros in their programs and as far as i am aware there is macro programs available for non programables too
[02/07/13 16:17:06] RAZER: so big question is.....what do we regard as cheating or using technology....a teamspeak debate is in order
[02/07/13 16:20:24] RAZER: If the technology is better than the game.....then we must make the game equal to the technology and totally get away from ....default gaming....thats my opinion.
[02/07/13 16:31:13] Shadow: Hmm maybe this should be put on xNULL as well.. I'm still not convinced it actually makes a difference on mohaa.. we still have norecoil cvar from 1.12 patch, and most players can burstfire pretty well anyways..
[02/07/13 16:31:35] Shadow: I myself would at least never lower myself to play like this.. on the other hand I mostly play with the sniper anyways, no use for it there.
[02/07/13 16:33:21] Shadow: Btw.. aimbot macro? How would you get your mouse and keyboard to instantly aim at all the opponents on screen? That can only be done by a real hack/cheat.
[02/07/13 17:00:45] RAZER: yeah i agree with burst fire, as i do that when i have to, but as you say not sure how it works with mohaa, but seen it in warfighter and moh. I will try later to get url for forum I was on where they were boasting about it.
[02/07/13 17:04:55] RAZER: x-null would be a good idea, they might know, i also saw this on battlefield series, have a look there you may see something I missed.
Well my own thoughts on it and not fully aware of what can be done but I guess what you are saying is that a macro / keybind on say rapid fire can be pulsed via a macro and key bind and basically gives you no recoil.
Well yeh I can see that if you key bind a key or mouse button to fire wait fire wait or something like that its going to help prevent recoil gun up lift but for mohaa as long as the anti recoil is on then its only basic keyboard strokes either done by hardware or software but same as pulsing manually - agreed you can get the timing spot on with a macro or keybind so not really sure what bennefit it is till I see it .
The only keybinds I use are -:
bind DEL "+moveleft; wait ; +leanleft"
bind END "+moveright; wait ; +leanright"
I have messed around with keybinds before and done a panic button where the keybind jumps player and spins round firing and crouching but was about as much use as a tea bag with no holes.