AAAA League 2013 planning stage

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AAAA League 2013 planning stage

Hi all and welcome to AAAA 2013 Match League

Well actually nothing here yet thats because we need to build it together

So where are we at well still trying to finish off 2012 AAAA League Reading

So we are now pushing to finish off those matches but want to recap over the last 12 months on what we did, why we did it and so on - mainly because a lot of lessons learnt

So the 2012 AAAA Custom MAP FT OBJ League

Well we had done a couple of seasons on stock mohaa maps and at the time the active clans at the time voted on A) staying FT and going Custom as a fresh change....... some clans left half way through a few joined but overall it remained a small league with about 5 clans and still running lol but had some great matches on it and the custom maps that were selected by Dave Ubersoldier were a great set of maps and TBH if we end up picking say a Custom map League again would be more than happy to use those maps again..............

So lets cover some issues with the current 2012 League.

1) Custom maps

Well they were voted in and a few complained they were hard because they did not know them - We did create a custom match server open to all League clans to use as a practice server to get used to the maps (only a few used) I also created a map plan to show where all the maps and where the bombs were with screen shots.

2) Anticheat

Well this is broken down to two server side and client - voted in was MOHAAC and Reborn

So Server side Reborn most settings are on but some issues with FT format and monkey on back and other settings cause lag and other settings still in development and seem to cause problems BUT all due respect they have done an AMAZING Job on the Reborn patch - for me its something I never though we would see for MOHAA so it kind of rocks and my whole hearted respect to the amount of effort that has gone into that project
I think we got a great balance with the features we used from Reborn in anticheat and stability.

For MOHAAC - well we moved over as clearly we saw cheating still and UAC3 is a great anti cheat but a simple google on UAC3 will have you fully loaded with hacks to give you more holes in mohaa with UAC3 than a tea bag
Again MOHAAC was voted in very early and were many problems but from the offset again AMAZING what Steve Dellax had done and we chucked loads at him to help us run a league running it and OMG he gave us ALL we asked for........
The problems well you got like 6 if not more versions of MOHAA from UK,EU and US which caused a lot of validation issues then you players using Vista,XP,Windows 7 and now Windows 8 so thats added one BIG bag of ISSUES - But Steve has done an amazing job chpping through all those and also adding many many more features - I am like never thought I would see a patch now we got a brand new Client anticheat

For Above yeh some issues and many players refuse to use MOHAAC........mmm lets think Well I know for a fact that its stable and fast on XP as I run it on my own and my kids.........I know many players run it with Windows 7 and also Vista all ok........

So you kind of think the players that cant / wont well what you trying to hide Sad yeh their are issues but so much info about the fixes and what to do - and when ever a post is made to MOHAAC forum it gets sorted so the bottom line EFFORT from players to get it sorted - I have seen so many of you help players run MOHAAC including myself so the ones that just say its crap and it dont work Grrrrrrrrrrr Angry PUT the effort in

3) Format
Well dont see a problem here we can run a few different formats stock custom what ever as soon as there are 3 clans or more in a format we can start a league in that format

4) Rules

Again yeh the rules can be updated and changed and voted on by all

All I would say is (and seen it so so many times) IT ONLY TAKES ONE BAD CLAN MEMBER FROM ANY CLAN INCLUDING MY OWN TO ROCK THE BOAT AND CAUSE TWO OR MORE CLANS TO FALL OUT !! this sucks but its LIFE - Whats important !!! is the clans isolate the issue and play on its a GAME !!!

So look all this above is just some starting points on what we need to address none are show stoppers so while we finish off 2012 lol lets start inputting on what we all want from the AAAA League.................

We will have some meet ups on TS to have some fun a laughs and progress all this but I hope I can count on you all to ENJOY, HAVE FUN and INPUT your own ideas!!!

Happy shooting - Kill em ALL and kill em again

 

 

Cheers

  Heatsinkbod

&nb

Re: AAAA League 2013 planning stage

So what we ALL need to talk about

1)League Types currently I have these listed -:
Stock OBJ Freeze Tag
Stock OBJ
Sniper Only

We can add a few more - all we need is 3 clans or more to join any of these and we can start them

2) Anticheat Server side
Reborn Patch Server side - what settings - most clans now playing under 8 players so dont see a lag problem with turning all settings on ???

3) Anticheat Client side

Reborn client is coming and will have great anti cheat but NO date of release so this has to go on a back burner for now.
No point on UAC3 as yeh its better than nothing but to many holes Sad

MOHAAC in my opinion yes - players need to make the effort and feed back on MOHAAC Forum !!!

Other - NO we WONT be looking at the new DMW!!! If it ever gets released - RIP off money spinning venture!!!!!!

3) Rules

Yep lots to update BUT lets not over complicate it !!! FUN and FAIR !!! http://www.mohaaaa.co.uk/AAAAMOHAA/content/aaaa-league-rules-2012-season-3 Current rules to revise and change.

4) Match format

Well lots we can look at here - I raised before but got out voted on Match returns - to speed up the Legaue run times only play any clan once - I do like the idea of playing a clan twice but here we are in 2013 with outstanding matches for all clans for 2012

The match round times and number of rounds - perhaps we should look at this also ??

Well loads more we can all chat about this is just to get us started on building a great FRIENDLY League we can all enjoy playing but yet have the DIVERSITY to suit the different game types on MOHAA !!

Happy shooting - Kill em ALL and kill em again

 

 

Cheers

  Heatsinkbod

&nb

Re: AAAA League 2013 planning stage

Hi all these will be the new draft rules to talk about on the AAAA meeting on the Saturday 26th 19:30 - 2100 uk time http://www.mohaaaa.co.uk/AAAAMOHAA/content/aaaa-league-review-meeting-preparation-start-new-leagues-and-finish-2012-league

 

Current rules and then additions in yellow -:

***** This post is locked as these rules are LIVE *****

Any comments for these should be posted at this link -:

http://www.mohaaaa.co.uk/AAAAMOHAA/content/aaaa-2012-season-3-rules-review

1.Each clan can submit a max number of 20 players prior to start of season, after the start of season no other players can be used in the League.
You can use up to 2 players from other Clans as long as they are not in the league else where and this must be agreed with the clan you are playing. If your clan has changed a lot during then you should submit an updated clan player list to the League!!!

This rule needs a review as lots of players come and ago in any clan - I think needs to read perhaps like -:

NEW Rule 1. Each clan can submit a max number of 20 players prior to start of season, after the start of season  NEW players can be used in the League but they must be registered and active in your clan for at least 3 weeks. Mercenery players can ONLY be used if agreed with the clan you  ar playing

 

2.Every player must have NO mods in their main directory, including Cross hairs Blood mods, custom maps in main are allowed but if unsure go for a clean main!!!

3.Clan Player Balancing - The recommended minimum number of players for a League match is 6. (If two clans agree on less that is accepted).

This is to be changed -:

NEW Rule 3. Clan Player Balancing - The recommended minimum number of players for a League match is 6. BUT the match must be played so unless the match is cancelled at least 2 days in advanced the matach MUST be played as is or the match points get awarded to the clan that turned up

5.If a player is kicked from battle by what ever means round continues, player can rejoin but must ensure he does not remain in spec.

6.All Matches must be played on the AAAA match servers.

8.Any match played which results in a dispute must be completed their and then. If a clan quits over a dispute the clan remaining will win. Complete the match and raise a dispute - a dispute will result in one clan admin from clans not involved in match voting on outcome.

10. Game settings 5 rounds 5 mins each (total of 20 games)

No heavy Weapons, one sniper per team. Freeze tag / OBJ if applicable 

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seta sv_runspeed "300" ****** 

12. Each clan will play the opposing clan twice

This needs to be reviewed -: 

NEW Rule 12. Each clan will play the opposing clan ONLY ONCE

 

13. Start of match - both Clan admins agree ready via screen txt or TS - 3 restartes (when map is reloaded) starts the match!!! aaaaadmin tool should be used !!

ADDED All Mach clans MUST be on AAAA TS'3 so clan admins can drop in and out of the other channels when issues happen

14. The home clan is responsibly for screen shots at end of round and these must be posted in the League results section (Probably a good idea that both clans take screen shots incase they are missed)

15. The server log files will be available to both clans for checking - Anyone found with a mod or a cheat on will have their points removed and depending on severity may result in the match being void and that player being Warned / Banned
16. Map glitches - any map glitches are not allowed - this includes NO roof access / NO under mapping

17. Extra players......NO player can join the match after it has started - if BOTH clans agree that extra players can join later then that is accepted. ADDED Just let the other clan know onscreen !!! and TS 

18. If a clan does not play at least 2 matches in a month then 2 points will be deducted for each match not played - failure to play any matches over a month may result in being kicked from the league - The points will only be deducted when we feel a clan is letting other clans down.

19 All members must run MOHAAC using Match ID aaaa - MOHAAC will autokick any player not running it - autokick is running on the AAAA servers. If it is deem'd that a player is abusing this request then failure may result in 0.5 of a point for each player not submitting a scan!!! ALL infractions will be reviewed and if deem'd a major infraction 0.5 of a point will be removed from the clan. ADDED any clan member who cant run MOHAAC because of Windows  8 must prove they are running windows 8 and then must run UAC3 

21 If a clan leaves the League before completing all matches played and unplayed matches will be removed from League scores. This will result in as if they were never in the League so all points removed for all their matches effecting both played and unplayed matches.

22 If a League match is arranged and one of the clans cancel's on the night NOT giving at least 1 day's notice before the match they need to cancel then the cancelling clan will receive a -3 point penalty.
Any Clan getting 2 lots of penalty points (-6 so cancelling 2 matches against the same clan) will have that match awarded to the other clan and that match would not be played again.
Any clan receiving more than 9 penalty points will be reviewed by the other clan admins to decide if that clan should remain in the League.

Match Point scoring -:

3 for a win
1 for a draw
0 for a loss

Keep it clean and Enjoy!!!

Happy shooting - Kill em ALL and kill em again

 

 

Cheers

  Heatsinkbod

&nb

Re: AAAA League 2013 planning stage

These rules are just sugestions your input is needed and welcomed !!!!!:HELP:\\m/

Happy shooting - Kill em ALL and kill em again

 

 

Cheers

  Heatsinkbod

&nb

Re: AAAA League 2013 planning stage

Agree with all

For MOHAAC and windows 8  - not much we can do except to wait for the donations coming in...

Playing each other only once - Would prefere twice but long discussions have been made about this, I would accept playing each other once

Re: AAAA League 2013 planning stage

Mohaac auto kick (for not running) needs to be set off too !

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below...

Re: AAAA League 2013 planning stage

Yeh it will have to go off - cheers Blutch

Happy shooting - Kill em ALL and kill em again

 

 

Cheers

  Heatsinkbod

&nb

Re: AAAA League 2013 planning stage

Ok all lets get those finial matches booked on the 2012 League !!! 

 

All from the meeting we had all rules above ok !!! ??? then lets start working together to get the new leagues starterd !!! 

 

 

Happy shooting - Kill em ALL and kill em again

 

 

Cheers

  Heatsinkbod

&nb